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#critlib 2017-10-03: open educational resources
Archive of the October 3 2017 #critlib chat on open educational resources (OER), moderated by @zoh_zoh @aliversluis @eriksation and @SarahEHare. For more info about #critlib, including past and future chats, visit http://critlib.org/
- Preliminaries (pre-chat chatter)
- Hi friends! Reminder that on Tues (10/3), @zoh_zoh @SarahEHare @eriksation +I will be hosting an #OER #critlib chat! http://critlib.org/open-educational-resources-chat/ …
- If you have thoughts about anything I've said, please join the #critlib chat tonight at 6PM Pacific/9pm Eastern http://critlib.org/open-educational-resources-chat/ …
- Just seen tonight's #critlib chat is about OER. My & @cbowiemorrison's post on critical copyright literacy relevant? https://copyrightliteracy.org/tag/critical-literacy/ …
- Great questions on open educational resources & labor, privilege + more for tonight's #critlib chat at 9 eastern: http://critlib.org/open-educational-resources-chat/ …
- Just want to mention, we’ve got a class on OER in January, with @JessicaCritten http://libraryjuiceacademy.com/147-oer.php #critlib
- YES, this is why OER is my favorite--I love using both of these backgrounds. How can we STRUCTURALLY encourage cross-pollination? #critlib https://twitter.com/kevinseeber/status/915318297989705731 …
- An important thread on pedagogy as the entry point for faculty OER adoption #critlib https://twitter.com/kevinseeber/status/915310817121316865 …
- Introductions
- your #critlib mods this evening are me + @aliversluis + @eriksation + @SarahEHare - we worked together to write tonight's Qs
- Hullo hullo #critlib palios. Ali Versluis here! I do Research + Scholarship-y things at @uglibrary.
- Hi #critlib I' Christina, humanities librarian in Maine. I'm #eveninglibrarian, so likely lurking more than responding
- Hi, all! I'm Sarah, Schol Comm Librarian at Indiana University & OER enthusiast. Grateful to Zoe for letting me help w this #critlib chat https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915381092974157824 …
- Join the club! There's a lot to know! #critlib https://twitter.com/nfoasberg/status/915382033811206144 …
- @nfoasberg I feel the same way Nancy! #critlib
- Q1. What critical questions and ideas are missing from current conversations about OER?
- I think we'll do a deeper dive w following ?s, but def labor (who gets rewarded and how?), accessibility, privilege #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915383217636524032 …
- A1. Nearly every conversation I have discusses $, but lacks conversation about equity and access & benefits of reducing hierarchy. #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915383217636524032 …
- A1: When I say labour, I mean especially wrt library staffing. #critlib https://twitter.com/aliversluis/status/915383509379948544 …
- @kaitlinmlk Totally agree! #critlib
- A1: #OER makes the same mistakes #scholcomm does. Lack of understanding re: emotional nature of work, having 1 person do it all. #critlib https://twitter.com/aliversluis/status/915383944488607745 …
- A1. Maintaining OER/OA lon term. Caulfield mentions a few times how programs would fall apart after he left... https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915383217636524032 …
- @LibrarianKat_ Be sure to use the #critlib hashtag with your answers so your tweets show up in the chat. ;)
- A1: I think as a relatively newer movement, there's a lack of understanding around what is required for infrastructure + staffing. #critlib https://twitter.com/aliversluis/status/915384254028238849 …
- THIS TOO! Also, see #scholcomm. Everyone's busy replicating work instead of collaborating and scaffolding efforts. #critlib https://twitter.com/librarybell/status/915384618320367616 …
- #critlib See http://critlib.org/twitter-chats/ for link to tweet anonymously.
- @aliversluis Time management and commitment is one of the largest barriers my collaborators face. The grants paying you control how you work. #critlib
- @librarybell Same, I haven't read anything that really talks about maintaining OER/OA to make it longterm. It all seems to be shortterm projects #critlib
- @maxgbowman Indeed! And also: so many non-students benefit from #OER as well. #critlib #openpedagogy
- #critlib It doesn't account for diversity of the audience and what their knowledge. We touch on this idea in class... https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915385482002915328 …
- Q2. How does privilege intersect with making and using OER?
- Should be the byline for all #scholcomm work. Core to success will be if we can pool resources & expertise effectively/accessibly #critlib https://twitter.com/aliversluis/status/915384972986511361 …
- @LibrarianKat_ @librarybell I wonder if this is partially due to grant funding. In NY, the governor threw us a pile of $ to spend on v short notice #critlib
- @thestacylynn @aliversluis When folks realize that it's multidirectional, it is beautiful. But how often is the actual communication of #OER realized? #critlib
- @kaitlinmlk This is so true! "open" is complex. I don't think it needs to be, but so many workarounds have caused it to have many nuances #critlib
- @bembrarian @aliversluis Not sure there are altmetrics for #oer but could be interesting for measuring impact #critlib
- @aliversluis but how many faculty dream of perfecting their pedagogy when they have tenure? don't they want to focus on their research? #critlib
- When you have tenure, you're less focused on rat race. If pedagogy is important to you, you have the space+time to make it happen. #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915386704743194624 …
- @aliversluis Even further--anyone that is full time! #critlib
- @RachelMFleming I know you're sick so no pressure, but can you say more? Are you talking abt access codes/ editions/ pub tricks here? Or? #critlib
- @ashleydfarley @kaitlinmlk Lots of folks cut corners because a lot of material that is used in Fair Use--is proprietary at its core. #critlib
- @RachelMFleming yep. these are great. we have to talk about search/ discoverability if we are ever going to get traction, I think #critlib
- I think about this a lot. Lots of the students I've talked to prefer print. I have no solutions for this. #critlib https://twitter.com/ZachRPG/status/915387696373153793 …
- I am also a student and I find the lib book platforms crap - except for keyword searching in pro quest. #critlib printing is a burden https://twitter.com/zachrpg/status/915387696373153793 …
- @nfoasberg @ashleydfarley Agreed all around. I have noticed from Kindle to Ebook Central (ebrary) a drastic functionality improvement over the years, however #critlib
- Q3. Are there any commonalities between critical information literacy and open pedagogy?
- @bembrarian @ashleydfarley @kaitlinmlk When you consider how much should be in the public domain by now... #critlib
- @BrianEngelLIS I think this touches on the ableism that someone mentioned earlier #critlib
- @lisahubbell @librarybell I had an idea of public performance/street theater/street art as good examples of "open licensing" today 🖼️ #critlib
- A3. I think yes, especially if students are invited to contribute to the resources. #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915388502568722432 …
- @nfoasberg I wonder if students prefer print because profs encourage it. Also possibly a hegemony of the bookstore? #critlib
- Both are student-centered, constructivist, active learning approaches that attempt to push back on narrow defs of expertise #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915388502568722432 …
- @SarahEHare This is a fantastic description. Thank you! #critlib ✨
- @bembrarian #critlib It's just that in my experience, those on the Spectrum can sometimes misunderstand instructions and fail the assignment given.
- Or if bc electronic books (at least those provided through lib platforms) are on such complete, utter, unusable garbage platforms? #critlib https://twitter.com/bembrarian/status/915389561844375552 …
- @aliversluis Hah, yes--most of the platforms are awful (Books 24x7 anyone?), and yet some are impressively elegant and accessible. #critlib
- @aliversluis . . . Kind of like textbooks in general. 🤭#critlib
- A3 Fantastic question! Personally I believe in inclusivity of many voices concurrent w/ producers of info as being crucial to both #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915388502568722432 …
- @bembrarian @nfoasberg I think if there were better interfaces for making notes, highlighting, & searching texts it would be preferred. I prefer digital #critlib
- @zoh_zoh Just talked about this w/ @SallyHeilstedt today. To be open extends to #assessment, and that is as critical as you can get #critlib
- @aliversluis We put all books on reserve & have free printing, but students create pdfs on the book scanner. I think the platform part is key #critlib
- Ideally this is a core value of Education (cap E) in general as well, is it not? #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915389369569107968 …
- @ashleydfarley @bembrarian Definitely agree that note-taking is an issue! Digital has note-taking features but they're often more difficult than in print. #critlib
- #critlib, if you're unfamiliar with open pedagogy a quick, easy overview is David Wiley's 2015 post here https://opencontent.org/blog/archives/3761 … https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915388502568722432 …
- @thestacylynn @bembrarian @ashleydfarley I mean at least it is all clear cut and understandable.... #critlib
- @kaitlinmlk @bembrarian @ashleydfarley not sure i understand - what is clear cut and understandable? #critlib
- @thestacylynn @bembrarian @ashleydfarley navigating resources to find what is in the public domain, OA, Creative Commons.
- @kaitlinmlk @bembrarian @ashleydfarley was that meant as a joke? i don't think most find it easy to understand #critlib
- @thestacylynn @bembrarian @ashleydfarley total joke. adding more resources w/ more restrictions that change slightly we just make it complicated to navigate & promote. #critlib
- @kaitlinmlk @bembrarian @ashleydfarley oh ok - i thought so, but find it hard to tell on twitter sometimes #critlib
- Q4. How is it harmful to frame OER as a simple solution to complex issues (educational, economic, etc.)? Have you seen this framing?
- Keep forgetting to tag #critlib tonight. https://twitter.com/lisahubbell/status/915390871175970816 …
- A4. Yes. There's a really strong desire to simplify it for, uh, outreach purposes. Difficult to honor complexity in that context. #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915390515134287872 …
- @nfoasberg Also: 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵grants #critlib
- A great intro to open pedagogy from @actualham here too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7msF_BN3Jo … #critlib
- @zoh_zoh So true. #OER #openpedagogy and #openpractices are often conflated. The second two can include #OER but don’t always rely on them #critlib
- @SarahEHare This can range from students writing Wikipedia articles to blogging for each other, on open or closed course sites. #critlib
- @librarybell @aliversluis The PDF scanning sounds nice, but also a skill not everyone has . . . is file conversion part of teaching/supporting #OER? #critlib
- @SarahEHare @kevinseeber yeah, definitely what KS is saying. I'm kind of ranting in some related tweets tonight that profs use textbooks to assess students. #critlib
- But why can't it be about both? Just like #openaccess can be about impact and access. #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915391436798832640 …
- The million dollar ?: would OER adoption increase if we start to think about all OER as part of lib collection & promote as such? #critlib https://twitter.com/rbecks29/status/915391838999187457 …
- @BrianEngelLIS When I work with patrons, I constantly double-guess myself. "Are my instructions too simple/patronizing? Too detailed/complicated?"
- @bembrarian @librarybell @aliversluis File format is a huge issue with #OER as accessibility and conversion are technical skills that place a burden on creators #critlib
- @bembrarian Some faculty tune the train out if it gets too loud; others like to wait and see how it works for "everybody else". #critlib
- It's so, so easy in quick conversations to "oversell" OER as a remedy to educational/ economic inequality #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915390515134287872 …
- @foureyedsoul I've seen studies that suggest that faculty "buy" this argument much more often than just cost. #critlib
- @ForgetTheMaine Fascinating! I'd love to hear more about these studies if/when you remember titles. #critlib
- Q5. How does OER labor get rewarded (or not)? How does this differ across groups (librarians, instructional technologists, faculty)?
- There's a lot of public domain stuff people DO teach, though. And Norton makes HOW much money reprinting & selling it every yr? #critlib https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915392945443921921 …
- @nfoasberg So true. A cringe-worthy fact. Self-perpetuating, system feeding off itself. #critlib
- @eriksation @zoh_zoh Technically, teaching and learning do not require ANY physical/digital materials. #openpedagogy can be as minimal as a conversation #critlib
- @eriksation agreed - what seminal works are there for the whole program - requires faculty coordination though #critlib
- @aliversluis Or they look big and req significant distribution of labor across many profs/programs. Oh and a couple librarians to support all #critlib
- @eriksation @bembrarian @aliversluis Which comes back to the labor q! If not the creators, who is doing this work? #critlib
- @librarybell @eriksation @bembrarian @aliversluis Embedding more #OER creation into courses is one way to handle academic labor challenges and involve Ss in contributory #OpenPed. #critlib
- @actualham @librarybell @eriksation @bembrarian @aliversluis One of my grad English seminars did this (#OER creation). We typed & proofed novels, & made teaching tools: … http://earlyamericanserializednovels.github.io #critlib
- @librarybell @bembrarian @aliversluis Good point. I mean it’s not that different from the current academic publishing model except creators own their content and adapt #critlib
- gotta brag: @bembrarian & I are both at WA state community colleges so we're spoiled by resources like http://www.openwa.org/ #critlib
- @zoh_zoh And the @OERCommons WA Hub! https://www.oercommons.org/hubs/open-washington … #OER But WA's not perfect. Many librarians = clueless/unsupported. #critlib
- I really like the idea of tying #oer into the conversation about #altmetrics. #critlib https://twitter.com/kellyspiese/status/915394249801261056 …
- @aliversluis #critlib wonder if there's a connection here w open syllabus project? Seriously, most powerful altmetric is work being cited in a syllabus
- Conclusions
- This is the 100th #critlib ?!? Wooohoo! https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915394792959369216 …
- #critlib, I'm teaching a LJA course on #OER Jan-Feb. Learn basics & develop yr own outreach plan. @ill be a blast! http://libraryjuiceacademy.com/147-oer.php https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915394792959369216 …
- Can vouch for the awesomeness + utility of this class. Took it earlier this year. @SarahEHare is an awesome instructor. #critlib https://twitter.com/SarahEHare/status/915395357445681153 …
- #critlib pitch: If you have ideas for future chat topics, to moderate yourself or suggest, submit them to http://critlib.org/twitter-chats/suggest-a-twitter-chat/ …
- do you feel like an #oer newbie? were you overwhelmed by tonight's #critlib chat? take @SarahEHare's online class in January! https://twitter.com/SarahEHare/status/915395357445681153 …
- Thanks @zoh_zoh @aliversluis @eriksation & @SarahEHare for a great #critlib convo https://twitter.com/zoh_zoh/status/915381092974157824 …
- Seconded. A fantastic and relevant conversation that needs to happen more often. Thanks #critlib, for this open opportunity. https://twitter.com/kaitlinmlk/status/915397157724749824 …
- Shoutout to @PlymouthState students for the Open Anth of Early Am Lit, and to @RebusCommunity for taking it to the next level! #critlib #oer https://twitter.com/nfoasberg/status/915394425777422336 …
- Ugh i haven't even caught up with tonight's #critlib and already have continuing education to-dos https://twitter.com/kevinseeber/status/915317115732856833 …
