#LIUlockout | #critlib | 2016-09-13
66th chat, Tuesday September 13th 2016: #LIUlockout 6pm Pacific / 7pm Mountain / 8pm Central / 9pm Eastern Moderated by @ibeilin http://critlib.org/liulockout-chat/
- Hi #critlib! Let's start tonight's chat on the #LIUlockout with intros.
- The chat began with introductions, as usual.
- Hi there, #critlib! I'm Sarah, an LIS PhD student at Pitt, former student of @edrabinski, creator of http://bit.ly/liulockoutresources … & tired.
- #critlib #liulockout thanks for providing this channel, @zinelib! https://twitter.com/zinelib/status/775862519680368640 …
- Hi there, faculty at an NYC school of info with a union. Live near #LIUbrooklyn, too. #solidarity #critlib
- Hi #critlib! I'm a librarian, tenured, union. Enduring #LIUlockout. Anxious. Over & undereating in turn. Marathon training. Secretary.
- Hi #critlib academic librarian, @PSC_CUNY union member, once was library worker at @LIUBrooklyn obsessed about #LIULockout
- Q1. The #LIUlockout has been horrifying to witness & much worse to go through; what have been your reactions as a librarian/fac. member/student? #critlib
- Q1.#LIUlockout is horrifying to witness & much worse to go through; what are your reactions as a librarian/fac. member/student? #critlib
- @donnarosemary You're like a unicorn! Super rare, magical, and somehow, as this has all shown, still endangered? #critlib
- A1 Feeling like this could happen to anyone. Feeling like I wish I could do something to help #LIUlockout librarians. #critlib
- A1 Whenever I think of #LIUlockout starting when health insurance letters were rec'd by LIU fac I am furious approaching incoherent #critlib
- A1. Horrified by #LIUlockout discrimination against campus w more students of color. #critlib
- A1 taught a twitter workshop today for faculty in our union & used #LIUlockout as case study bc it is so important to us/higher ed #critlib
- @kevinseeber rly tho. I admit my own vulnerability is also coming to the fore as I make sense of what's happening w/ #liulockout #critlib
- @eiratansey such a great idea. #critlib
- Has the ALA done anything to reach out to locked out library workers? #critlib #LIUlockout
- @socaldesi in some sense they did it because they (some) are tt/tenured faculty #critlib
- @libraringkat oh yeah T&P documents are a heckuva thing! You can read other libraries' T&P docs at … https://academic-librarian-status.wikispaces.com/ #critlib
- I feel this is absolute higher Ed crisis. It could be new normal. I'm upset that I'm not seeing more news. #critlib https://twitter.com/ibeilin/status/775863483342675968 …
- A1. ESPECIALLY THIS. White supremacist capitalist patriarchy, to borrow hooks. The neoliberal university. #critlib https://twitter.com/lisahubbell/status/775864131899437056 …
- @Hatchotackni yes, statement issued today; link, anyone? #critlib
- When I learned what @LIUBrooklyn was charging for tuition I was floored. Strikes me as a predatory institution. #critlib
- Little bit of all of that in every direction. We don't know what will move them but we know they will move. #critlib https://twitter.com/jncohen/status/775864536930877440 …
- @kevinseeber like, if award-winning librarians, some with hard-won tenured, and unionized, can be locked out.......so could I be :( #critlib
- #critlib I don't think @LIUBrooklyn will survive this episode. Bad leadership erodes institutions & they have the power.
- This is not hyperbole. #critlib https://twitter.com/nfoasberg/status/775864765222678528 …
- Basically just nodding vigorously in agreement w/everyone's A1s. MPOW is steps away from #LIUlockout, it's surreal & infuriating. #critlib
- @livie_leigh it's total shock and awe. #critlib
- The situation is horrifying, but I'm esp. shocked that the #LIUlockout is a life change for insurance purposes. That is just low. #critlib
- I also want to support @edrabinski, @EamonTewell and others in LIS community. No one is immune to neoliberalization of higher Ed. #critlib
- This fear has been dogging me all day. It's my place, my library, I don't want it to disappear. #critlib https://twitter.com/rawdeal85/status/775865401670508544 …
- A1. "Not suppose to happen" Right?? Intellectual workers rarely align themselves with the rest of labor. #critlib https://twitter.com/LNBel/status/775865224624803844 …
- What can we now do to not only resolve #LIULockout, but also to prevent/prepare for similar situations? What are the warning signs? #critlib
- Totally. Your capacity to survive the protracted lockout is directly related to your rent payment. #critlib https://twitter.com/LNBel/status/775865797348560896 …
- @eiratansey @libraringkat woa this is a fabulous resource I didn't know existed! Wanna add mine.... #critlib
- @lisahubbell or for-profit schools IRL & corporate charters. #critlib
- @eiratansey @libraringkat oh wait misinterp'd: thought this was space to share our personal docs (dossiers etc)--idea forming? #critlib
- Yes. And the development in that part of Brooklyn is already beyond ridiculous. #critlib https://twitter.com/LNBel/status/775865797348560896 …
- Now we know we're workers, if there was doubt. (I already knew this. Could have been spared the $$ lesson) #critlib https://twitter.com/rowmyboat/status/775865998826176513 …
- #critlib this is very relevant to tonight's discussion. Quote comes from p. 14 of this doc: http://www.sr.ithaka.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/SR_Report_Organizing_Work_Research_Library_081816.pdf … https://twitter.com/eiratansey/status/766384135862714369 …
- To out detriment! And it's been this way forever! Emma Goldman wrote about it a hundred years ago! See: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-intellectual-proletarians … #critlib
- What's so shocking is that this faculty is unionized. Most of us don't even have that going! :( #critlib https://twitter.com/fiiidget/status/775866025103527936 …
- @libraringkat Or students missing out a semester fue to #LIUlockout, and the crank that throws in their plans. #critlib
- Q2. Are there any groups/individuals who you’d like to see show more support for students & faculty affected by the #LIUlockout? #critlib
- Q2. Are there any groups/individuals who you’d like to see show more support for students & faculty affected by the #LIUlockout? #critlib
- @eiratansey @libraringkat @hedgielib I just need to figure out how to ethically share bc I quote from fac colleagues on my campus #critlib
- talked w/ other former LIU-B contingent faculty (there are many) agreed we thought it was getting better #LIULockout was a shock #critlib
- Looked up the AAUP's statement: https://www.aaup.org/news/statement-liu-brooklyn-lockout#.V9iltcrD-ZU … #critlib
- Right? Which is why this move is so suspicious. Follow the $$$. #critlib https://twitter.com/mauraweb/status/775866368637988866 …
- @eiratansey @libraringkat @hedgielib I need to get retro consent to make their words public&anonymize those I don't hear frm #labor #critlib
- This is what it feels like on the inside too. #critlib https://twitter.com/pdjewell/status/775865847059361792 …
- @donnarosemary @eiratansey @hedgielib yeah, as someone who is very new to the tenure process, examples would be so helpful. #critlib
- It's true that the #LIUlockout shows no one is safe, but in a way those of us in non-union jobs are already 'broken' #critlib
- @libraringkat @eiratansey @hedgielib I'd be happy to email directly to anyone on this thread wanting to see mine. DM me addys? #critlib
- Organized labor matters. I would have said this abstractly two weeks ago, but it's also real real true. #critlib https://twitter.com/kellymce/status/775866884239466496 …
- A thousand times this. Where IS everybody?! #critlib https://twitter.com/rowmyboat/status/775867280794251272 …
- I am also interested in this work! #critlib https://twitter.com/ubiquity75/status/775867262465028097 …
- @edrabinski Em, let's connect on this...ah, when you have a sec. #critlib
- A2: More convos at other unis about it, I constantly remind colleagues about #liulockout only to receive passive 'not us' shrugs #critlib
- @trlwagner yes, I was confronted with a lot of explanation abt how "it's different here." #critlib
- A lot of faculty here in NYC started as adjuncts at @LIUBrooklyn until we found better paying jobs. #critlib
- #critlib A2. in addition to prof orgs and higher ed media, I would love to see my colleagues out here be more aware of the #LIUlockout.
- @rowmyboat & we expect the arbitrary and sudden whims of administration (even if we aren't prepared) #critlib
- I've heard some very anti-union sentiment around #LIUlockout, that "this is what unions bring" #critlib
- Anyone know if any other academic (nonlibrarian) professional associations said anything? Q2 adjacent, #critlib https://twitter.com/marxalot/status/775867594985250818 …
- @trlwagner People fool themselves into thinking they are above hostile mgmt action. It's a dream. At will employment, no union. #critlib
- @livie_leigh seriously! #critlib
- As a non-faculty unionized staff member in relatively saner HE climate of Canada, I look at #LiuBrooklyn #LIUlockout with horror #critlib
- When #LIUlockout is over & @LIU_FF is back in the classroom I hope energy is redirected to other LIU unions #critlib https://twitter.com/ibeilin/status/775866867550457856 …
- This makes me want to remove my brain from my skull. Management is crushing us. We didn't make this happen. #critlib https://twitter.com/librarybell/status/775868372777132032 …
- A2: Administrators who still believe in higher ed, esp the liberal arts. Assuming there still are some? #critlib https://twitter.com/ibeilin/status/775866867550457856 …
- @ubiquity75 I would like to learn more & work more in this area. #critlib
- Accrediting committees are sloowww to act. #critlib https://twitter.com/livie_leigh/status/775868366443732992 …
- A2. Would love to see accreditation depend on fair labor practices. How many universities would survive? #LIUlockout #critlib
- If there were more unions, there'd be a lot less #LIULockout situations. #critlib https://twitter.com/librarybell/status/775868372777132032 …
- Me too! Though an early, sympathetic story in the WSJ also wowed me. #critlib https://twitter.com/nfoasberg/status/775868717972525056 …
- @aboutness By design. Last 40 years of right wing decimation of pub education where labor history was taught. #critlib
- @kevinseeber Agreed. I want to see more reasonable intelligent statements of support (w/ANALYSIS) frm admins in libs &/or higher ed #critlib
- #critlib Did folks see @democracynow coverage from today?
- @rowmyboat the trap intellectual labor falls into is of class: professionals not tradesmen, of the same class as admins #critlib
- #critlib yes. Researching this whole situation has been made possible mostly thx to tweeter. https://twitter.com/nfoasberg/status/775868717972525056 …
- @nfoasberg I’m surprised I haven’t heard more talk about it among my colleagues throughout the college! #critlib
- It's just not about individuals. It's about capital and labor. Class relations. It's not about me. #critlib https://twitter.com/kevinseeber/status/775866292192485376 …
- @mr_nesbitt @rowmyboat perhaps AT ONE TIME faculty could expect to negotiate as gentlmen/equals but BOY. Neoliberalism y'all. #critlib
- A2 as lib @ a prov uni & a fac senator w/out tenure & continuing appt, #LIUlockout has been an education. #critlib https://twitter.com/ibeilin/status/775866867550457856 …
- doesn't "faculty governance" standrd address this lil bit ? There are such standards in med school accred. #critlib https://twitter.com/lisahubbell/status/775869030292828160 …
- @charlottebrun This is a good example of “authority is constructed & contextual” if we want to get all info lit frameworks on this #critlib
- @ubiquity75 By design, and with a LOT of effort and planning. Not teaching labor history, AND persistent, pervasive union busting. #critlib
- A2: As @edrabinski warns in 'Critical Journeys' we ALL need to fight corporatisation of highered & us being 'hamsters on the wheel' #critlib
- @livie_leigh very very true. Some conversations are nor happening, and it's not random. #critlib
- Waiting, seeing. My impression is accred bodies move like container ships. Slow, far from port. #critlib #LIUlockout https://twitter.com/livie_leigh/status/775869593265041408 …
- Maybe we could help? If all of us who're members of non-lib prof orgs contacted them about #LIUlockout? #critlib https://twitter.com/ubiquity75/status/775869670461050880 …
- @edrabinski other interesting phenomenon: they are actually majority composed of faculty folks #justlikeus #critlib
- @edrabinski Your tweets of start dates show a radical departure from job security for faculty still at LIU since '60s and '70s. #critlib
- Q3. What can we do now to end the #LIUlockout, and to prevent it from happening again? #critlib
- Q3. What can we do now to end the #LIUlockout, and to prevent it from happening again? #critlib
- Labor an contracts and employment were never discussed in library school. We should be happy to have jobs, right? #critlib #LIUlockout
- Also my educational institution clerical & uniformed trade union members know about the #LIUlockout know this is their struggle too #critlib
- A1. Concerned for colleagues and self, bc #LIUlockout could embolden my college and system’s market-worshipping administrations #critlib
- Yes. Just contacted one for which I'm a steering cmte member. Need to act. Injury to one is injury to all. #critlib https://twitter.com/mauraweb/status/775870788918472704 …
- @edrabinski in many ways, a lot like professional orgs are mostly as well. makes locating impetus for action challenge #critlib
- @aboutness @ubiquity75 #critlib My director, the one who likes to hire non-tenure track, has a degree in labor studies!!!
- how to file a complaint regarding an accredited or candidate MSCHE institution. https://www.msche.org/ #critlib
- Union started in 1970s, one of first organized in private higher ed. #critlib https://twitter.com/lisahubbell/status/775870895151652864 …
- @rowmyboat And the patriarchy (for good measure) #critlib
- omg I AM A HAMSTER! #critlib https://twitter.com/pdjewell/status/775870541852844033 …
- @librarybell of course. #critlib
- @edrabinski @aboutness @ubiquity75 part of the disappearing landscape of the beat reporter :-/ #critlib
- @allanaaaaaaa won't it just become more precious? #critlib
- #critlib the #LIUlockout raises serious questions about the long-term tenability of higher ed. I don't think it's going to last as a career
- I've heard this a lot every time I've been involved in a job action. I should be happy with what I have. #critlib https://twitter.com/librarybell/status/775870968443105281 …
- A3: make sure #liulockout is known, that this can happen. that this will happen. And then organize, organize, organize. #critlib
- @nfoasberg Same, but I also know it takes changing discussion around what students expect from a college education #critlib
- This is the #LadiesAuxiliary long term plan as well. #critlib #LIUlockout https://twitter.com/rowmyboat/status/775871264556740612 …
- @charlottebrun busyness of maintaining one's ish in direct conflict with organizing/developing those networking nec. 4 these situs #critlib
- @edrabinski YES YOU ARE. I sent @EamonTewell a huge box of candy for y'all, btw. Make sure he shares! Eat it for strength! #squawk #critlib
- A3 +We are a fac unionized Catholic private institution. New pres will make or break whether #LIUlockout happens here #critlib #notonmywatch
- @ubiquity75 & primarily POC have to pay, to benefit primarily white middle class suburbs; then to further gentrify bklyn #critlib
- this is so important #critlib https://twitter.com/jmymcginniss/status/775872280769523713 …
- Have heard this exact statement at MPOW: "we're going to a more corporate model." #critlib https://twitter.com/rawdeal85/status/775872062002962433 …
- So just union busting and contempt for fac and students. #critlib https://twitter.com/edrabinski/status/775872327619846144 …
- @ubiquity75 seems to me to be the worse possible outcome for all parties? students, faculty, workers - no one wins if campus closes #critlib
- I talk to everyone about #LIULockout, post on social media, but wish I could help get it into real media #critlib
- @ubiquity75 I think a very brutal restructuring/refocusing is more likely. #critlib
- part of my twitter workshop was noting how if yr active #onhere you knew about #LIUlockout DAYS b4 media #critlib https://twitter.com/LNBel/status/775872854969778176 …
- @edrabinski and @EamonTewell are the most enthusastic #blackbirdnation librarians that @LIUBrooklyn has ever risked losing #critlib
- A3: Yes, told my spouse who also knew nothing, I'm like, shit's getting real #critlib https://twitter.com/mauraweb/status/775872406799917056 …
- Pls keep adding to http://bit.ly/liulockoutresources …! Seems like a lot of ppl are sharing screenshots, not sure how to collect those. #critlib
- @ubiquity75 we're not a university, we're a Lifestyle Redesign Centre® #critlib
- Everytime you hear "you should be happy for what you have" ... take note ... you probably shouldn't be. #critlib https://twitter.com/edrabinski/status/775871801041756160 …
- #critlib #LIUlockout What are upcoming protest action plans?
- Bingo. That's not how the labor equation works. #critlib https://twitter.com/lisalibrarian/status/775873501546749954 …
- Thinking of this all too timely #saa16 takeaway again re: #LIUlockout #critlib https://twitter.com/dorkivist/status/761641358624948224 …
- @libraringkat ugh that is just ridiculous because I am a) faculty, b) tenure track, c) in a union and d) have my MLIS #critlib
- + Support #FightFor15. Support Chicago teachers. Support Alina nurses. Support grad students organizing. #critlib
- I have been thinking about this a lot in relation to #LIUlockout & I know we can't all afford to make those decisions #critlib
- note that this is not the same thing as remembering what you have, like a union for example. #critlib https://twitter.com/lisalibrarian/status/775873501546749954 …
- Tomorrow: 4pm rally/vigil at campus. Negotiations resume at noon. Who knows! Things could change! #critlib https://twitter.com/paulsager/status/775873681386041344 …
- @libraringkat thanks for sharing this story-I did not come from background that valued org. labor/unions so apprct this quite a bit #critlib
- Obviously Cline has the support of the Board. Who is on it? Let's dig. #critlib https://twitter.com/lnbel/status/775874017249099776 …
- Long Island Universrity Brooklyn brought to you by Elsevier.* *journal subscriptions not included #critlib https://twitter.com/allanaaaaaaa/status/775873466394353665 …
- A3/1. #LIUlockout and what it bodes for the rest of higher ed feel emotionally draining in similar ways to climate change. #critlib
- okay okay SERIOUS A3 if you can, work to unionize adjunct/contract/support staff. look into @UrbanWorkerCA + similar projects. #critlib
- LIU Board of Trustees #critlib http://www.liu.edu/About-LIU/Board-of-trustees …
- Speaking of how library associations should throw down few can ever top this https://njla.org/content/new-jersey-library-association-statement-alas-presidents-program-midwinter-2016 … #critlib https://twitter.com/brinepond/status/775875127799971840 …
- Time for links to petitions, donations, other important pages for #LIUlockout...
- Living with unions in higher education (AKA THE DARK SIDE): https://www.universitybusiness.com/article/living-unions-higher-education … #critlib
- I need to head out now. I hope colleagues at LIU-B take from this #critlib the solidarity of the lib community. ✊ #LIUlockout
- #critlib #LIUlockout Was the student walkout successful and how is student solidarity? Students are getting just as screwed.
- A3/2. Remember (but can't find) article about climate change activists working through and with pre-emptive grief. #LIUlockut #critlib
- #critlib ending with some levity... has anyone seen thread on the ILI list abt if message subjects shld have tags? http://lists.ala.org/sympa/arc/ili-l
- Here's the #LIUlockout donation link if you haven't seen it yet: https://www.aft.org/liu-solidarity #critlib https://twitter.com/ibeilin/status/775875547872321537 …
- Here's the place to donate to support our friends in the #LIUlockout #critlib https://www.aft.org/liu-solidarity
- Call President Cline's office and let her know she should cut it out. #critlib http://www.aft.org/end-lockout-and-bargain-fair-contract-now-3 …
- oh lord y'all this article is a piece of work, but then look at the second word in the URL... #critlib https://twitter.com/klmccook/status/775875627639504896 …
- Final thoughts...
- Thanks to everyone for being here tonight! Solidarity. #critlib #LIUlockout
- When our contract was ratified this summer, I said, now we have what the LIU -B Librarians have #spoketoosoon #critlib
- A3: keep spreading the word use social media to ? attacks on #libraries education & workers - learn what 'austerity' is doing in UK #critlib
- A4 I suggest everyone read up on labour history. + if you teach, teach it in your classes. #critlib https://twitter.com/Bibliocracy/status/775701425104031745 …
- Send President Cline a letter! https://actionnetwork.org/letters/end-the-lockout-and-bargain-a-fair-contract-now … #critlib
- Thanks to @ibeilin for organizing an hour of #critlib & to @edrabinski and colleagues for organizing days on end to protest #LIUlockout
- Hey! For the faculty and students impacted by the #LIUlockout, #critlib tonight is evidence that librarians everywhere are in your corner.
- "Let us resist perishing. But if we are to perish, let us perish resisting." Le Guin #critlib #solidarity
- Do any #LIUlockout folks know when the BoT meets? #critlib
- @eiratansey agree..but we need to transform the biz word to mean good #critlib
- @eiratansey yes, please! Wanna lead a chat? http://critlib.org/twitter-chats/suggest-a-twitter-chat/ … #critlib
- Have a #critlib pitch?
- #critlib pitch: suggest a chat, whether you want to moderate it or not http://critlib.org/twitter-chats/suggest-a-twitter-chat/ …
- Seconded, this was awesome. Librarian/Archivist twitter is so great #critlib https://twitter.com/mauraweb/status/775878018896134144 …
- Post-#critlib hour thoughts...
- Finally getting around to my own dinner, catching up with #critlib chat on the #LIUlockout. A lot to digest!
- Q1 reaction to #LIUlockout: horror, anger, gobsmacked at the wasteful stupidity, worried too many HE trustees hate what HE is for #critlib
- Boosting some of tonight's important #LIUlockout #critlib chat. https://twitter.com/Hatchotackni/status/775864323948195840 …
- For any Aussies lurking #critlib #LIUlockout today & wondering 'how is this relevant in Aus?', see: http://fairgo.nteu.org.au/ @NTEUNational
- Late intro as I boost tonight's #critlib: Adam, instruction librarian, faculty, non-union, non-tenure. Proud former @MachinistsUnion member
- Couldn't make #critlib on #LIUlockout last night. If you've got a union, go to the meetings and get involved, even if it's frustrating.
- #critlib If you're interested in how a reform caucus changed the Chicago Teacher's Union this book is worth a read http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/851420189
- Catching up on #LIUlockout #critlib this a.m. since I passed out on face last night. Hope I don't spill all this rage on my FYE students.
- @brinepond http://x.preater.com/2cV7ODt and also YES! If it's possible to second a #critlib topic I second that suggestion.
- Have librarians & archivists always been so awesome, or did an evolutionary leap take place? #LIUlockout #critlib https://twitter.com/MyHarmReduction/status/775850197155020800 …
