40th #critlib chat: tenure track and social justice work

August 25, 2015

  1. Pls join us for #critlib on soc justice work/job security tonite. ALL WELCOME. Even if u didn't do reading or don't work in acad lib.
  2. @elotroalex just follow and tweet the hashtag #critlib starting at 9pm. We'll toss out Qs every few mins or so to get convo going. :D
  3. T-1hr to #critlib! Grab some food. Watch 1 more ep on Netflix. Start nudging ur sweet little beasties toward bedtime (good luck w/that).
  4. Rushing home from the @mnylc happy hour so I can catch tonight's #critlib. Am I doing this right? #librarianing
  5. Sorry to miss a super important #critlib tonight especially given all the happenings right here in my own backyard-->  http://jberdahl.blogspot.ca/2015/08/academic-freedom-and-ubc.html β€¦
  6. #critlib readings here  http://tinyurl.com/critlibx  All welcome as @AprilHathcock said! We don't want to exclude anyone. not just about tenure!
  7. After today felt particularly like neoliberalism-in-action day, cannot wait for #critlib chat in 20min!
  8. Hi all welcome to chat 40 about social justice and tenure track/job security #critlib
  9. Yahoo! Let's get ready to #critlib!!!! Toss out some intros before @lalaleefull kicks off our first Q! I'm April, co-mod from NYC!
  10. Hi all! I'm Lee Ann from Brooklyn College, entering second year of a tenure track ref/instruction position #critlib
  11. Hey #critlib! Academic librarian (in a non-tenure track position) from Pgh, PA
  12. Hi #critlib! Kevin here. Non-TT faculty member and academic infolit person in Denver.
  13. Hi #critlib, I'm Ian, academic librarian (non-TT!) in NYC; here tonight, toddler-permitting
  14. Hello #critlib. Nora here, academic librarian from Brooklyn.
  15. I'm Jennifer. Tenured librarian at New York University. Currently on vacation at the Jersey shore (i.e., "down the shore) #critlib
  16. kyle. indianner. recent unemployed librarian (I mean graduate). interviewing for two positions, one TT, one NTT #critlib
  17. Hi #critlib! Archivist dialing in from Ohio. I am rounding out year 2 of my tenure-track position. I'm also union.
  18. Hi #critlib I'm an academic librarian in Brooklyn, care about social justice, got tenure in May.
  19. Joanna, UMBC, typing with left hand slowly, right hand soothing baby, #critkidsupdate #critlib
  20. may have to mute #critlib. Do not enjoy tenure discussions.
  21. Hey #critlib! I'm Amanda, a NTT research and instruction librarian, but very interested in this conversation.
  22. Hi #critlib. Instruction librarian here, submitting my binder for tenure this fall.
  23. Hi. Brian here. Academic Librarian entering 4th year in a tenure track IT position in Chattanooga. #critlib
  24. Oh yeah. I'm currently non-TT but being switched to a tenure line in the next year or so. #critlib
  25. Hi! I'm Sveta, a newbie humanities librarian in Hawaii & psyched that this is the first #critlib chat I've been able to make in a while.
  26. Hi! librarian doing instruction/outreach at Kansas State - just starting my first year as tenure track! #critlib
  27. it has been a while for me, I suppose. 4 or 5 chats? yeesus. #critlib
  28. Hi #critlib! PT academic librarian here in NYC. Precarious, not TT
  29. @AprilHathcock and I are new to the moderating thing, so please bear with us :) #critlib
  30. Hi #critlib, I'm TT-librarian, actually up for tenure right now, will find out in May. Research&Learning Librarian + Instruction Coordinator
  31. Hi #critlib, I'm a tenure track (TT) academic librarian. A+ topic tonight!
  32. oh, and I'm in literally week #2 of a TT faculty position. #critlib
  33. Hey there, #critlib! Instructiony librarian in Seattle-ish area. TT, sorta (not fac, but similar process). Mostly lurking, because DINNER.
  34. OK here comes Q1 Is tenure/guaranteed contract necessary for effective critical/social justice work? Why or why not? #critlib
  35. Hi #critlib! Just finished running two library orientation scavenger hunt activities, excited for this chat tho!
  36. I'm an academic instruction librarian, associate professor and newly tenured (!!!) as of yesterday (!!!!!) #critlib v. relevant 4me tonight.
  37. Hi #critlib, I'm Maura from an academic library in Brooklyn, running late tonight.
  38. A1 can make it feel safer, but not necessary. Depending on the work, it could count as service toward getting tenure #critlib
  39. Hi #critlib! Long time lurker, first time introducer (still lurking tho) 2nd yr student & records/reference for Seattle municipal gov.
  40. Tonight's #critlib will be interesting as a NTT, staff librarian in Wisconsin.
  41. Congrats to all of our newly tenured/promoted colleagues and to our colleagues with new jobs :) #critlib
  42. I'm ex-TT and I've yet to feel the difference; except, less pressure :) #critlib
  43. Hi #critlib! Academic librarian in NC. Faculty status, no tenure at our library.
  44. A1 No- IMO the best SJ work happens outside of institutions. By definition there's less bureaucracy/hindrance. #critlib
  45. a1.1 employment precarity is no longer mutually exclusive from tenure. i think this question misses a lot. #critlib
  46. A1: hard to say. I've always been outspoken (for better or for worse) so getting tenure didn't make me feel safer #critlib
  47. A1 I guess I wonder about the wording of this question. Tenure-tenure, promise of tenure, or enviro that values academic freedom? #critlib
  48. (some of my @PrattSILS Literacy and Instruction students may be lurking tonight; they will be joining later in the term!) #critlib
  49. Ahhhh the #critlib love is overwhelming me y'all. πŸ’œ ready to dive in and figure out together what all this MEANS on the ground tho.
  50. A1 we could argue that tenure track demands hinder the pursuit of social justice, so no #critlib
  51. A1 Librarians' marginal position within academe is also important here. Less scrutiny, tenure or not, can mean room for resistance #critlib
  52. A1 I don't think tenure is necessary. For me an accidental thing, this is the job I got. Did the same stuff as at-will staff lib. #critlib
  53. @AprilHathcock Most of my work is done while teaching my semester-long credit class, but not everyone has that! #critlib
  54. A1.1: I get the feeling that a good deal of such work occurs minus the comfort of academic protection. So I'd hazard not necessary. #critlib
  55. A1 probably helps, but a lot of (most?) social justice work is done from precarious positions/tenure does not guarantee action #critlib
  56. A1 Also wonder if "But, tenure track..." Is excuse to not do some things that matter sometimes. #critlib
  57. A1:Permanent status & promotion, not quite TT. Unlocking status made me feel more secure to get loud. But not totally necessary #critlib
  58. Meaning we've bought into it? β€œ@rawdeal85: A1 we could argue that tenure track demands hinder the pursuit of social justice, so no #critlib”
  59. @AprilHathcock a collective bargaining agreement that articulates academic freedom is the most essential ;) #critlib
  60. Related Q1.2 Does TT lend itself to creating certain types of change and NTT to others? #critlib
  61. RT @eiratansey @AprilHathcock a collective bargaining agreement that articulates academic freedom is the most essential ;) #critlib
  62. A1.2: I also suspect the sort of person compelled to act pursues it in spite of fear or recourse. #critlib
  63. A1 not necessarily...I think a lot just depends on institutional culture as well #critlib
  64. RT @AprilHathcock Related Q1.2 Does TT lend itself to creating certain types of change and NTT to others? #critlib
  65. Q1. In my experience, climate makes the difference NOT TT or NTT #critlib
  66. A1.1: Live in a democracy of my own mind, always felt free, making me a very useless model | A1.2 see A1.1 #critlib
  67. @edrabinski I think we're super lucky in that our library very heavily values service in our RPT criteria #critlib
  68. Also think tenure diff for libs in terms of stakes. Don't have to leave the field like I've seen teaching faculty have to do. #critlib
  69. A1: Climate is important--organizational culture gives authority #critlib
  70. @edrabinski I'm on the current RPT criteria revision cmte and it's fascinating #critlib
  71. A1 TT does help also foster culture to act on bigger university issues as faculty peers #critlib
  72. Q1.2 In some ways, I feel my current NTT position can give me more freedom. Not compelled to tick boxes for tenure process. #critlib
  73. a1.2.1 tenure isn't collective barganing. it's exactly the opposite. tenure is personal precarity at the hands of lower workers #critlib
  74. A1: As NTT staff I've never felt comfortable pushing boundaries with admin, but I do what I can to work SJ into extracurriculars #critlib
  75. A1.2: no meaningful ans possible; institutional envir much more impt. #critlib
  76. I work social justice examples into my teaching and libguides. It's a conversation starter. #critlib
  77. @kshockey04 I don't quite understand. What do you mean by "lower workers"? #critlib
  78. "promise of tenure"rarely parsed out,but so significant:my probationary 6yrs v diff frm approach moving fwd #critlib  https://twitter.com/eiratansey/status/636344345583616000 β€¦
  79. A2.1 if critical scholarship is part of how you work towards SJ then TT is helpful, since scholarship is part of what u r paid for #critlib
  80. @jessicahochman @pumpedlibrarian TT position is necessarily scarce. junior professors, NTT librarians, paraprofessionals support #critlib
  81. I felt that I needed to make it clear that soc just part of my work during interview, even tho position was TT #critlib
  82. Q2. If you actively sought/seek a TT job, what attracted you to the position? If you avoid applying for these jobs, why? #critlib
  83. A1 I'm in interesting personal space where I discovered/made explicit #critlib/SJ aspects of my wrk as I was transitioning frm TT to tenured
  84. @eiratansey Yes, in a few ways: MOST significant rn is making claims on my time I didn't before, doing things I value w/ it. #critlib
  85. I guess this where institution diffs come into play. Is crit scholarship as valued? Or is it supplement? #critlib  https://twitter.com/oksveta/status/636346905589452800 β€¦
  86. @lalaleefull Biggest thing for me is space & time for research / writing. Not baked in to academic libs beyond TT in many cases #critlib
  87. @oksveta yes, agree v much, depends on how individual chooses to implement / work toward SJ to determine if TT helps or hinders #critlib
  88. A2 for me TT is essential. It says a lot about how the institution values librarians as teachers #critlib
  89. A2: I sought TT bc perceived financial security. I'm breadwinner 4 my family #critlib
  90. @kshockey04 @pumpedlibrarian ah, I get it. It's different for faculty at my inst. Only other TT faculty are on our committees. #critlib
  91. @eiratansey Also "trying on for size" elements of speaking more freely--I remind myself I am more 'equal' to others in rm now #critlib
  92. A2: Honestly, I was looking for any job in librarianship. That I'm TT was unexpected. I'm of mixed mind about it. #critlib
  93. RT @rawdeal85 A2 for me TT is essential. It says a lot about how the institution values librarians as teachers #critlib
  94. Agree w several abt importance of institutional culture. That determines so much of what we can do. #critlib
  95. A2 I'm fairly new to academia. Came from corp world where u can be fired any day for any reason. Tenure still feels weird to me. #critlib
  96. A2- Was in TT job, moved to NTT. Would have preferred TT, but it's a cool lib w/ lots of opportunities. Couldn't pass it up. #critlib
  97. @eiratansey Want to grow more into that though as time goes on (the speaking more freely part). I'm naturally non-confrontational:) #critlib
  98. Q2 I haven't "avoided" applying for TT jobs, but am def insecure about publishing/doing "journal worthy" LIS research *blush* #critlib
  99. Q2 I have not made an effort towards TT over NTT or vice versa, but I do consider climate. #critlib
  100. @AprilHathcock Great point. Sometimes, NTT can mean all writing is on ur own time although some places support it as prof dev too #critlib
  101. A2 I sought a TT job bc it gives me the time and resources to pursue (sometimes #critlib oriented) research that other jobs don't
  102. @edrabinski esp. in terms of dictating what kinds of scholarship / social action you can pursue #critlib
  103. I am the lbn for Health & Nutrition, so health disparities, race, social justice, are all important topics for me and teaching fac #critlib
  104. A2 sought out TT, feel status helps work w/ faculty, & service/scholarship is important and want to have it included in position #critlib
  105. Q2 I think org climate (or microclimate) can make all the difference, perhaps more so than TT v NTT #critlib
  106. perfectly summed up what I was going to say. Specifically sought out TT positions in this last job search! #critlib  https://twitter.com/rawdeal85/status/636347570411974657 β€¦
  107. A2 similar to @nora_almeida and @ginaschless -- I wanted a TT position for the research expectations & job security. #critlib
  108. A2 institutional culture def plays into it, too. I love that critical pedagogy & soc justice work valued here #critlib
  109. Yes! & the great points others have made about unions. Imagining an ideal #critlib library w/all 3 of these.  https://twitter.com/edrabinski/status/636347759818223617 β€¦
  110. A2 TT means support for, as @edrabinski put it so well in her blog post, the professional joy of meaning-making through writing #critlib
  111. @nora_almeida @lalaleefull what does that look like at your institution? just ability to set your schedule, or actual support? #critlib
  112. A2 Wanted job for the work. Didn't think much abt TT the time. Briefly considered avoiding acad libs due to these pressures tho. #critlib
  113. Again late to #critlib, so a belated intro: Charlotte, NTT academic librarian
  114. Hey #critlib, late because of reasons. I'm Ryan, freshly minted MLS holder from @iuils.
  115. Q2 is interesting because I am interviewing for one of each. #critlib
  116. BlackbirdNation librarians like me @EamonTewell & @kate_angell are very well supported for scholarship, get lots of time. #critlib
  117. And also hierarchical structure (or lack thereof)of lib org often means R&T have nothing to do w/ job roles #critlib  https://twitter.com/edrabinski/status/636345853737869312 β€¦
  118. I also think TT fosters the intellectual climate I want to be in, but good communities exist in non TT places too A2 #soblessed #critlib
  119. Q2: TT was not something I have either looked for or avoided. Institutional culture has been more important. #critlib
  120. A2- Also in interview for NTT job, pushed to ensure org shared my beliefs. In job talk I said "lib'ship has a whiteness problem" #critlib
  121. Important to say that, that tenure gives us space enough to think & write, and that has been amazing. That's what I want to do! #critlib
  122. This does make TT positions intimidating, but I am starting to see the benefits of having time to research #critlib  https://twitter.com/beastlibrarian/status/636347919478583297 β€¦
  123. A2: now, being TT at a place where there is support, I can see the benefits #critlib
  124. Which means, though I have tenure, still vulnerable in terms of professional goals re: wanting to move in new roles w/in org #critlib
  125. @lalaleefull @nora_almeida nice. do you have pre-tenure research leave? wish we had that here -- only available for tenured #critlib
  126. A2: Applied for both. NTT position b/c of availability. Culture on campus hasn't made a difference between TT and NTT #critlib
  127. In a TT environ, what can/should tenured librarians do to better support non-tenured? #critlib
  128. A2 I’m attracted to TT bc TT materially expresses institution’s committment to & expectations of role. But culture also important! #critlib
  129. @kevinseeber i used a similar strategy in an interview too. it quickly became evident it wasn't place 4 me. didn't get offer either #critlib
  130. @eiratansey @nora_almeida Yes, we get two full semesters over first 5 years. Union job, TT, so very, very lucky in that sense. #critlib
  131. We also publish and present a lot, critical to note *material* support we get. TT matters for those sorts of resource claims. #critlib
  132. A2 like @edrabinski I stumbled into tenure-land--was entry-level job I got! had *no idea* there was TT/NTT diff in aclib land #critlib
  133. A2 At one point, I was looking at 2 jobs, one TT with a union, the other NTT. The NTT job had more excited & passionate colleague #critlib
  134. Hi #critlib - sneaking in late. Academic librarian, staff, non-union, massachusetts.
  135. A2 I feel conflicted abt TT. I've felt it can be exclusionary, & can punish librarians who are good/devoted but just don't publish #critlib
  136. A2 Big draws for me in this job: TT, union, & org structure theoretically allows for lots of autonomy. We'll see if so in practice. #critlib
  137. @jvinopal - our lib does mentors. the TT committee is also incredibly useful at providing annual feedback. & informal lunches. #critlib
  138. @donnarosemary @edrabinski was in NTT aclib job before current TT gig. Diff in terms of 'status' important for critical autonomy. #critlib
  139. And Q2 is very interesting. I avoid TT jobs because the 2 I was in were so god-awful stifling I couldn’t breathe. #critlib
  140. There is a down side to tenure: 'dead wood' - don't like the term but they do exist #critlib
  141. A2 & my job really IS different from faculty. I want it to be that way! So I don't think TT really fits what's best for me as a lib #critlib
  142. @AprilHathcock @jvinopal They need to have your back, be supportive, guide you thru committee work/politics campus wide #critlib
  143. A2 What's hysterical in retospect:job ad incl need4scholarship 4 tenure& I brought MLIS grad papers to interview as 'proof' I could #critlib
  144. And 'dead wood' can hinder critical work of others in some cases; they have power #critlib
  145. @jvinopal - i feel we've got a better, more transparent set-up in some respects than traditional academic departments. #critlib
  146. Tho I am not currently TT, it is something I'd like to eventually seek so I try to work on professional projects that aren't req'd #critlib
  147. @PoorCharlotte i think this really depends on your P&T criteria -- MPOW heavily values service #critlib
  148. @kellymce for sure! TT can mean the exact opposite too, lots of personal stress involved in tenure processes #critlib
  149. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ (at least, for me, one did not meaningful signify ability to do other, had to learn other on fly) #critlib  https://twitter.com/donnarosemary/status/636349989447446528 β€¦
  150. Late, mostly lurking, but hi #critlib! TT librarian at a university library here.
  151. I think TT can help encourage librarians to give back, but idk if it's the best way. does it lead non-lib fac to give more respect?#critlib
  152. @eiratansey Yes, get research leave and lots of support from my dept re: scholarship @lalaleefull #CUNY #critlib
  153. seeing other TT folks get lots financial support & time 4 research. I get some, but do 90% of my research on wkends, after 40 hr wk #critlib
  154. A2.a I'm struck by ppl who feel tenure improvs cred w/other fac. I think non-libns who would look down, do so anyway. #critlib
  155. @ibeilin NTT can have this too -- there are other promotion structures that make it easy for ppl to stick around #critlib
  156. @beastlibrarian oh you totes have ability to learn to do this, no question...how one thinks and processes is key IME #critlib
  157. @ibeilin true, but dead wood is everywhere in higher ed. Which is why tenure may not last as colleges become more like corporations #critlib
  158. even if I don't get either of these jobs, or if I don't get the TT one--it's nothing compared to trying to publish in grad school #critlib
  159. I'm so behind in #critlib feed rn. Gonna skip back to "present/now" and catch up on Q2 answers later...
  160. @ginaschless even with research leave, i still do most on my own time. It's kind of intense. #critlib
  161. A2 This TT job I looked at required a lot of scholarship but gave no extra time for doing so, not like @edrabinski talked abt. #critlib
  162. Agree about non-lib fac. Been my biggest obstacle--I'm NTT but still considered faculty and def have to illustrate expertise #critlib
  163. @CopyrightLibn i think it depends. At MPOW we are in same bargaining unit as disciplinary fac, so we're all in trenches 2gether #critlib
  164. Totally this. I know there are places where library tenure process is seen as second-rate by other fac #critlib  https://twitter.com/copyrightlibn/status/636350481661452288 β€¦
  165. @ibeilin But maybe tenured folks can be aware/help counteract? W/tenure I'm trying to be more aware of where I can speak up/help. #critlib
  166. A2 didn't seek TT at first, but have really come to appreciate being seen as a colleague by faculty. #critlib
  167. @CopyrightLibn also we serve on faculty cmtes we simply wouldn't have access to w/o being in faculty union #critlib
  168. even tho libs are TT at my institution, many teaching faculty don't realize this. they're shocked we publish, research, etc #critlib
  169. A2.b But also struck that non-libns who wd look down sometimes think my JD = PhD. Y'all know it's just 3 yrs of tests, right? #critlib
  170. @rawdeal85 totally agree - another good point - tenure is being eroded daily, even when it appears to provide security #critlib
  171. @CopyrightLibn #critlib Agree, structure doesn't confer automatic respect. I have tenure, some ppl still think I'm a copy machine. #critlib
  172. TT/fac status=I can serve on campus committees, go to same prof dev events as teaching fac. I get a seat at table, leaves out staff.#critlib
  173. @CopyrightLibn not necessarily. TT means research & that's more important to TT faculty than teaching. TT = chance of partnership #critlib
  174. @mauraweb @ibeilin Without knowing specifics, ideally seems that tenure process aims to select those motivated to keep current #critlib
  175. Hey #critlib. I'm Curator of Special Collections at @UofDenver, NTT faculty.
  176. @ginaschless Yeah, my TT job involved going to conferences on my own $$$. #critlib
  177. @rawdeal85 but I have to say, I haven't encountered any 'dead wood' in current place of work (among libs) (rose-colored glasses?) #critlib
  178. @CopyrightLibn as LIS faculty w/degree from ed school, I (embarrassed!) had no idea librarians had tenure before I got this job. #critlib
  179. A2.2 prob also the case that ability to expressly seek out TT/NTT position implies considerable privledge #critlib  https://twitter.com/kshockey04/status/636350688650354689 β€¦
  180. @lalaleefull @ginaschless Me too, but I think that's partly my own fault, like I could scale back my research but don't wanna. #critlib
  181. @CopyrightLibn Yes agree. Faculty seem stunned when I tell them some staff @ mpow have tenure. No effect on respectful vs not #critlib
  182. I will say, it was nice to get invited to all the faculty shindigs -- mingling as equals was good networking. #critlib
  183. @ibeilin @mauraweb I always hopefully think "correlation β‰  causation" with tenure & stagnation. Might be years of underpaid labor. #critlib
  184. @mauraweb @ginaschless I agree completely. I love doing it, just wish I had more time for downtime. It's exhausting but worth it. #critlib
  185. @mauraweb yeah, usually they can be the decisive force to tip things in the right direction #critlib
  186. @rawdeal85 @CopyrightLibn right -- but the point is, faculty status won't matter either way with them! #critlib
  187. @ibeilin that's awesome. Mostly true for #torchville too, but there are some notable exceptions. But back to social justice... :) #critlib
  188. @ibeilin @rawdeal85 My last job was a frickin petrified forest. Had to get outta there. #critlib
  189. @EamonTewell @kellymce raises hand, waves it wildly. TT was exactly the wrong place for me to do my meaningful work. #critlib
  190. A2 My last job was NTT but I was "admin. faculty" & got to vote/go to meetings/have a seat at the table, but no scholarship. #critlib
  191. Yeah, faculty status may mean access to uni shared governance. Curious to hear about people's experiences. #critlib  https://twitter.com/jkgadsby/status/636351239987425280 β€¦
  192. What do these dynamics, cultures mean for social justice / critical orientation though? #critlib
  193. One problem I see in TT environ is that some staff doing v similar work are TT & some in admin positions. Weird inequality #critlib
  194. @edrabinski But I wonder, what comes/came first (for librarians, usually): the union or the fac status? Here, fac status=union card #critlib
  195. Q3. How does being considered for tenure/guaranteed contract help/hinder you in terms of crit/soc justice work in your institution? #critlib
  196. @jvinopal - yup. just gotta make sure you fight for NTT staff rights, pay, autonomy & respect when & were possible. #critlib
  197. Th work of librarian has changed so much in last 20 yrs that there's no single way to say *tt* position is def TT and *tt* is admin #critlib
  198. I'm still newish as a lib (<10 yrs) but I sort of think union vs TT is more impt to protection/being able to do work for change #critlib
  199. A2 we're NTT, not faculty, not staff, we have no seat in Staff Advisory Council, no voting seat in University Senate. #voiceless #Critlib
  200. @edrabinski I've only gotten that once or twice, b/c of being the one taking notes on a laptop. #critlib
  201. So this leads to arbitrary separation between TT and admins, diff benefits, diff expectations for promo. #critlib
  202. @edrabinski so while the union card is the greater protection, it's not accessible to me unless librarians retain fac status #critlib
  203. @PoorCharlotte Fascinating approach. Seat at table seems profoundly important, especially where large enough librar* overlooked. #critlib
  204. @edrabinski which is in turn actually distinct from access to tenure! ahhhh and the wheels of confusion spin on! #critlib #somanycategories
  205. A3: it doesn't. other, much more benign forces than TT play a role. #critlib
  206. I'm drifting a bit from the SJ focus of the convo. But if the fight for equality starts at home, that's one place to address it #critlib
  207. A3 at prev. NTT job, NOT being TT hurt me when trying to publish/present. libs had no academic freedom, despite being "admin. fac" #critlib
  208. I just have no idea how to address it from the middle of the organization. No one cares what I think abt admin positions. #critlib
  209. A3 My dept has focus on academic freedom, which makes room for crit/sj work. But being teaching faculty makes room in different way #critlib
  210. A3 In all honesty, and I know I speak from privilege here (trying to own): TT gave me space to engage theory&learn about #critlib/SJ things
  211. A3 I feel like I have to do "traditional" scholarship in addition to crit work, "just in case." #critlib
  212. At UMN, lib staff are represented in Uni governance if not-quite-TT, -and- if not on that line. #critlib
  213. At UMN, lib staff are represented in Uni governance if not-quite-TT, -and- if not on that line. #critlib
  214. @PoorCharlotte what do you mean by union vs tenure-track? I view them as complementary but diff things #critlib
  215. @PoorCharlotte what do you mean by union vs tenure-track? I view them as complementary but diff things #critlib
  216. @lalaleefull when presenting on library policies & procedures, we had to vet everything. but not for our own non-lib scholarship #critlib
  217. @lalaleefull when presenting on library policies & procedures, we had to vet everything. but not for our own non-lib scholarship #critlib
  218. A3.2 Which means, without being on TT my introduction to this work would have been *different*: better or worse, will never know #critlib
  219. A3.2 Which means, without being on TT my introduction to this work would have been *different*: better or worse, will never know #critlib
  220. Q3.1 How does it impact your scholarly or other output? Do you feel pressure to publish in certain venues/on certain themes? #critlib
  221. Q3.1 How does it impact your scholarly or other output? Do you feel pressure to publish in certain venues/on certain themes? #critlib
  222. @eiratansey I meant a union maybe could do more than just being TT maybe. Not sure if I'm putting my thoughts together well here! #critlib
  223. @eiratansey I meant a union maybe could do more than just being TT maybe. Not sure if I'm putting my thoughts together well here! #critlib
  224. Like professional/para distinction. Structures inequality in the workplace. Tough to square w other values. #critlib  https://twitter.com/jvinopal/status/636352325678972929 β€¦
  225. Like professional/para distinction. Structures inequality in the workplace. Tough to square w other values. #critlib  https://twitter.com/jvinopal/status/636352325678972929 β€¦
  226. @eiratansey @PoorCharlotte They don't always go together. I'm TT faculty in a "right to work" state :( #critlib
  227. @eiratansey @PoorCharlotte They don't always go together. I'm TT faculty in a "right to work" state :( #critlib
  228. @nora_almeida Depends. I've taught in places where crit work not rec'd well by students & no support frm admin. #critlib
  229. @nora_almeida Depends. I've taught in places where crit work not rec'd well by students & no support frm admin. #critlib
  230. A3 W/in the org I'm careful which battles I pick and how I fight them. Even though I'm tenured, I want to retain my influence #critlib
  231. A3 W/in the org I'm careful which battles I pick and how I fight them. Even though I'm tenured, I want to retain my influence #critlib
  232. @lalaleefull ultimately I don't think social justice comes into play w/ publishing as much as work with students / faculty #critlib
  233. @lalaleefull ultimately I don't think social justice comes into play w/ publishing as much as work with students / faculty #critlib
  234. @kellymce @beastlibrarian @librarygrrrl I feel the same. Lots of work I'd be doing anyway but given more time/resources to do it #critlib
  235. @kellymce @beastlibrarian @librarygrrrl I feel the same. Lots of work I'd be doing anyway but given more time/resources to do it #critlib
  236. A3: I don't know how it affects this, in big ways. In small ways, I have support to pursue scholarship and service that are #critlib/SJ
  237. A3: I don't know how it affects this, in big ways. In small ways, I have support to pursue scholarship and service that are #critlib/SJ
  238. @PoorCharlotte to me, having a union is what gives the principles of tenure actual teeth #critlib
  239. A3 in my limited experience, being TT allows for the time/space for research which (for me) will include critlib/SJ work #critlib
  240. @PoorCharlotte to me, having a union is what gives the principles of tenure actual teeth #critlib
  241. A3 in my limited experience, being TT allows for the time/space for research which (for me) will include critlib/SJ work #critlib
  242. .@lalaleefull I kinda do... I have been wanting to take a break from writing. I think I just turned in my last project till 2018 #critlib
  243. .@lalaleefull I kinda do... I have been wanting to take a break from writing. I think I just turned in my last project till 2018 #critlib
  244. @AprilHathcock Yes, consumer students aboutn. To me when crit approach does work that that's the point. Eyes open. #critlib
  245. @AprilHathcock Yes, consumer students aboutn. To me when crit approach does work that that's the point. Eyes open. #critlib
  246. I'm realizing something about tonight's conversation. There really isn't a place for non-working librarians in this conversation. #critlib
  247. I'm realizing something about tonight's conversation. There really isn't a place for non-working librarians in this conversation. #critlib
  248. Basically I would parrot @librarianmer on TT/NTT (faculty and nonfaculty) positions. She's had both and her comments are right on. #critlib
  249. Basically I would parrot @librarianmer on TT/NTT (faculty and nonfaculty) positions. She's had both and her comments are right on. #critlib
  250. @kshockey04 This convo is open to all libns. It's in the description and ppl can't engage with SJ if they fear for safety of job #critlib
  251. @kshockey04 This convo is open to all libns. It's in the description and ppl can't engage with SJ if they fear for safety of job #critlib
  252. A3.1 I don't, b/c of my dept culture. I feel pressure to publish in journals, but I'm ok w/ only submitting to #openaccess #critlib
  253. A3.1 I don't, b/c of my dept culture. I feel pressure to publish in journals, but I'm ok w/ only submitting to #openaccess #critlib
  254. @AprilHathcock That's precisely what I'd imagine doing if I were TT. Any opportunity to smuggle #critlib lenses into "traditional" pieces?
  255. @AprilHathcock That's precisely what I'd imagine doing if I were TT. Any opportunity to smuggle #critlib lenses into "traditional" pieces?
  256. Because they're seen as valuable areas for study, and because I know how to justify my choices. #critlib
  257. Because they're seen as valuable areas for study, and because I know how to justify my choices. #critlib
  258. @CopyrightLibn I think point ppl are making is having that status gives you access not dependent on ppl's goodwill to libs #critlib
  259. @CopyrightLibn I think point ppl are making is having that status gives you access not dependent on ppl's goodwill to libs #critlib
  260. A3.1 before i took my job, i researched what my colleagues had written & felt like my #critlib work wouldn't be challenged/would be welcomed
  261. A3.1 before i took my job, i researched what my colleagues had written & felt like my #critlib work wouldn't be challenged/would be welcomed
  262. When it comes to publishing so much depends on local conditions (dept., institution) - can go both ways. #critlib
  263. @kshockey04 I think this is all related. Fight 4 SJ isn't just something that happens *outside* our orgs, but inside them as well. #critlib
  264. @kshockey04 I think this is all related. Fight 4 SJ isn't just something that happens *outside* our orgs, but inside them as well. #critlib
  265. When it comes to publishing so much depends on local conditions (dept., institution) - can go both ways. #critlib
  266. @foureyedsoul That's been my approach so far. Undercover #critlib at times. I'll let you know how it works for me in ~7yrs.
  267. @foureyedsoul That's been my approach so far. Undercover #critlib at times. I'll let you know how it works for me in ~7yrs.
  268. A3.1 There's pressure to focus on practical things "helpful" to profession, code for supporting dominant paradigms in libs and HE #critlib
  269. A3.1 There's pressure to focus on practical things "helpful" to profession, code for supporting dominant paradigms in libs and HE #critlib
  270. A3: the SJ stuff that doesn't fit into my job, I do outside my job. Just like every job I've ever had. #critlib
  271. A3: the SJ stuff that doesn't fit into my job, I do outside my job. Just like every job I've ever had. #critlib
  272. A3.1 In an interesting way, the emergence of #critlib-as-community of scholarship/practice validates impact of critical scholarship I pursue
  273. A3.1 In an interesting way, the emergence of #critlib-as-community of scholarship/practice validates impact of critical scholarship I pursue
  274. @kshockey04 I think it's fair and healthy to raise issues of our own/concern for precarity in these convos #critlib
  275. @kshockey04 I think it's fair and healthy to raise issues of our own/concern for precarity in these convos #critlib
  276. Oh I disagree with this a lot. I don't teach. But deal with a lot of soc justice issues in my research. #critlib  https://twitter.com/AcornElectric/status/636354705313038341 β€¦
  277. Oh I disagree with this a lot. I don't teach. But deal with a lot of soc justice issues in my research. #critlib  https://twitter.com/AcornElectric/status/636354705313038341 β€¦
  278. Feel like the union librarian conversation is as good a place as any to mention this journal  http://thekeep.eiu.edu/jcba/  #critlib
  279. Feel like the union librarian conversation is as good a place as any to mention this journal  http://thekeep.eiu.edu/jcba/  #critlib
  280. A3.1.2 i.e. gives me smthng to point to& say: this work is important because not just I believe it is, but my 'profession' does too #critlib
  281. A3.1.2 i.e. gives me smthng to point to& say: this work is important because not just I believe it is, but my 'profession' does too #critlib
  282. @jvinopal @kshockey04 I think it's also okay if not all #critlib conversations speak to all people.
  283. @jvinopal @kshockey04 I think it's also okay if not all #critlib conversations speak to all people.
  284. @kshockey04 An opportunity for another chat discussing how unemployed/non-library-job MLIS folks can bring #critlib principles to action?
  285. @jvinopal @kshockey04 For sure. Lots of long-term, adjunct friends teach me about sj in the face of marginalization everyday #critlib
  286. @jvinopal @kshockey04 For sure. Lots of long-term, adjunct friends teach me about sj in the face of marginalization everyday #critlib
  287. @kshockey04 An opportunity for another chat discussing how unemployed/non-library-job MLIS folks can bring #critlib principles to action?
  288. (only reason for scare quotes around 'profession' in #lt is bc I'm referring to y'all as a monolith when you're anything but ;) #critlib)
  289. (only reason for scare quotes around 'profession' in #lt is bc I'm referring to y'all as a monolith when you're anything but ;) #critlib)
  290. Another plea for someone to Storify tonight's chat? Please? #critlib
  291. Another plea for someone to Storify tonight's chat? Please? #critlib
  292. @barnlib @jvinopal @kshockey04I learned a lot tonight even though the conversation wasn't about "my issues." It was great! #critlib
  293. @barnlib @jvinopal @kshockey04I learned a lot tonight even though the conversation wasn't about "my issues." It was great! #critlib
  294. @AprilHathcock I've seen some surprisingly #critlib "discussion" sections in otherwise "traditional" studies, if that's heartening.
  295. @AprilHathcock I've seen some surprisingly #critlib "discussion" sections in otherwise "traditional" studies, if that's heartening.
  296. SJ as how you treat people FTW! ++1 #critlib (I know it's so much more than that too but it's simplest way 2 start!)  https://twitter.com/barnlib/status/636355534808055808 β€¦
  297. SJ as how you treat people FTW! ++1 #critlib (I know it's so much more than that too but it's simplest way 2 start!)  https://twitter.com/barnlib/status/636355534808055808 β€¦
  298. @ginaschless yes, my former colleagues basically opened up #critlib and critical pedagogy to me - thnx @mauraweb and @718anne!!
  299. @ginaschless yes, my former colleagues basically opened up #critlib and critical pedagogy to me - thnx @mauraweb and @718anne!!
  300. Still thinking abt how that NTT job penalized ppl for trying 2 become better librarians. no prof. dev, no publishing, no innovation #critlib
  301. Still thinking abt how that NTT job penalized ppl for trying 2 become better librarians. no prof. dev, no publishing, no innovation #critlib
  302. @kellymce Yes!&those complicated ways become evident when you're meta-describing 'impact' by pointing to #critlib community inR&Tnarratives!
  303. @kellymce Yes!&those complicated ways become evident when you're meta-describing 'impact' by pointing to #critlib community inR&Tnarratives!
  304. Institutional culture and admin support for SJ has more to do with job security than TT/NTT status. Not 1:1 but see @stevesalaita. #critlib
  305. Institutional culture and admin support for SJ has more to do with job security than TT/NTT status. Not 1:1 but see @stevesalaita. #critlib
  306. @ibeilin @ginaschless @718anne Thanks for taking on the #critlib mission of our course so enthusiastically!
  307. @ibeilin @ginaschless @718anne Thanks for taking on the #critlib mission of our course so enthusiastically!
  308. Q3 Knowing that scholarship is part of my perf/eval, I'm more likely to set aside work time to pursue research on SJ issues #critlib
  309. Q3 Knowing that scholarship is part of my perf/eval, I'm more likely to set aside work time to pursue research on SJ issues #critlib
  310. the "no academic freedom" was justified as "other jobs don't have that" but that's a bad ex. being different in that way is good #critlib
  311. the "no academic freedom" was justified as "other jobs don't have that" but that's a bad ex. being different in that way is good #critlib
  312. Okay, #critpitch time for #critlib! Thanks for a great discussion tonight, everyone!
  313. Okay, #critpitch time for #critlib! Thanks for a great discussion tonight, everyone!
  314. I also emphasize importance of scholarship for my non-TT employees. #critlib
  315. I also emphasize importance of scholarship for my non-TT employees. #critlib
  316. Thanks for such amazing responses to the topic y'all #critlib
  317. Thanks for such amazing responses to the topic y'all #critlib
  318. Access is always a SJ issue. Can your publications be read by comm. college / less $$ institutions / public librar* colleagues? #critlib
  319. Access is always a SJ issue. Can your publications be read by comm. college / less $$ institutions / public librar* colleagues? #critlib
  320. #critlib is refreshing and made me a better lib but I was afraid to publicly be involved. A TT job would've totally taken away that fear
  321. #critlib is refreshing and made me a better lib but I was afraid to publicly be involved. A TT job would've totally taken away that fear
  322. #critlib itch: the core moderators welcome to our midst @violetbfox, critical cataloger & creator of our beautiful new website. Mwah!
  323. #critlib itch: the core moderators welcome to our midst @violetbfox, critical cataloger & creator of our beautiful new website. Mwah!
  324. @foureyedsoul this is interesting because "can" hardly ever translates to "will," esp in LIS ed curriculum studies #critlib
  325. @foureyedsoul this is interesting because "can" hardly ever translates to "will," esp in LIS ed curriculum studies #critlib
  326. My #critpitch is, I'm looking for someone to mod a #critlib about prison labor in libraries. Spread the word, volunteer yourself!
  327. My #critpitch is, I'm looking for someone to mod a #critlib about prison labor in libraries. Spread the word, volunteer yourself!
  328. Sorry to chime in to #critlib tonight super late, but it looks like it was an awesome conversation. Thanks @lalaleefull for moderating!
  329. Sorry to chime in to #critlib tonight super late, but it looks like it was an awesome conversation. Thanks @lalaleefull for moderating!
  330. I'm storifying tonights discussion. Look for a link shortly with the hash #critlib