#critlib Chat April 22, 2014

This is my first Storify, so apologies if anything is missed. I'm going to try to keep conversations together and organize responses by topic versus straight chronological order, since that helps me. I'll also admit to cutting a few things, mostly "I agree"-type responses.

  1. This week's #critlib was moderated by the one and only Annie Pho.
  2. Good evening #critlib! Let's start off with intros! I'm Annie, an academic librarian in Chicago!
  3. As always, information on each chat is available in the Google Doc: tinyurl.com/critlibx
  4. After introduction, we get our first question: 

    How do we take our students identities into account when teaching?

  5. Following up from last #critlib chat: Q1 - How do we take our students identities into account when teaching?
  6. Not making assumptions and taking the time to learn about your students was key to a lot of answers
  7. Q1 I try my best not to make any assumptions about where my students are coming from and incorporate their examples in class. #critlib
  8. Q1 #critlib I'm still learning how to work with my students, and who they are, as most of them coming from a very different place than I am.
  9. Q1 #critlib like @catladylib said, I try not to make assumptions, talk to them, get to know what they are interested in, and their skill lvl
  10. Q1 Try to not make any assumptions about anyone's experiences, open the floor for students to reflect/share #critlib
  11. Q1 Also need to be careful not to presume, attach our own prejudices to the people we see in our classrooms. #critlib
  12. Also, no assumptions about tech comfort . Their experiences are all over the map. #critlib
  13. A1: When verbally explaining an activity, putting up a slide w written instructions; hope that helps w language ability for ESL #critlib
  14. A1: and individual preferences of course, but in response to demographics such as internationall students #critlib
  15. Doing this in a one-shot session can take some work
  16. A1 Can be a challenge in a one shot, even when asking for examples usually not time to have everyone volunteer. #critlib
  17. Q1. In 1-shots, talk to the classroom faculty & try and work from what they bring. It's easier in extended interactions. #critlib
  18. Q1 Best tool I've found for getting in touch with students is laughter. They're more open if I start class with a laugh #critlib
  19. Best typo ever
  20. A1: honestly, I think we wring our hands about the one shit when we could build more on existing classroom dynamics #critlib
  21. Gaining trust from your students and building relatinonships was a big issue that came up
  22. It can be hard to know - first year students don't always want to share who they are. Doesn't feel safe. #critlib
  23. A1: at an instructional level, we talk a lot about student demographics: int'l, 1st gen, multilingual #critlib
  24. A1: but that is generally programmatic, rather than addressing what happens within the classroom #critlib
  25. A1: I work regularly with a prof whose assignments dig into identity, which helps...but students don't know me enough to trust me #critlib
  26. @kellymce the trust thing is a big issue. Easier with advanced courses; students feel comfortable in their academic identities.
  27. A1: this is why I like peer-sharing activities, because they have better rapport/trust with classmate than me the rando librarian #critlib
  28. A1 Great point by @kellymce re: class not having rapport w/libn, points to value of strong relationships w/faculty (tho can be hard 2 build)
  29. Q1 Understanding student id. is hard for instruction librarians because we don't have the same relationship w/students as profs. #critlib
  30. @catladylib Sometimes I find that helps, because we aren't (generally) giving them a grade. When a prof leaves my class, students share more
  31. Which naturally transitioned to what our relationship should be with students
  32. .@catladylib This. I have a follow up Q that I wrestle w/ in own practice: What should our relationship *be* w/ students in #critlib frame?
  33. @donnarosemary I see us as facilitating conversation, and asking them more questions to get them to crit. think abt info. #critlib
  34. @donnarosemary of course, it's not always that easy. Some classes are easier than others.
  35. .@catladylib Was thinking more day to day--1st name basis? what's our "title"? intro ourselves w/1st names? what's appropriate? #critlib
  36. @donnarosemary Ohh yeah. Too personal can be weird if you're younger looking. Been asked out at the desk before. :(
  37. @donnarosemary @catladylib I use my first name - Seems to go over ok in the places I work. #critlib
  38. @mauraweb @ifrank @catladylib In writing I'm usually "Prof. Witek" but dur class I intro self using 1st name. Hard to navigate tho #critlib
  39. I feel strong institutional culture pressure 2 use Prof not my first name, feels uncomfortable. #critlib @ifrank @donnarosemary @catladylib
  40. @mauraweb @ifrank @donnarosemary @catladylib Maybe that's right sometimes. Paying attention to your culture is important. #critlib
  41. @EvelineLH I also use 1st name, then let students call me "Prof," "Mr," etc as they like. Esp. flexible w returning/older students #critlib
  42. Again the problem of the one shot reared its head
  43. Q1. Trust is so important. In 1-shots I try not to ask for things that require a level of trust I haven't earned, but it's hard. #critlib
  44. Tackling identity in an online environment can also be problematic
  45. Anyone else teaching/librarian-ing online? Sometimes there aren't many cues about student identity! #critlib
  46. @ifrank good point! I like to have students write a little intro to me -- with the discretion to share what they want to. #critlib
  47. .@kellymce @ifrank I also make a pt to share abt myself, at start of sesh & throughout--shift power/ID dynamic, give Ss more power #critlib
  48. Q1. Recently started thinking about this a lot in the asynchronous online context -- choosing accessible examples/explanations #critlib
  49. Broader student population is also important for understanding student identities
  50. Q1: depends on the demographic of the student population. What's everyone student pop demographic look like? #critlib
  51. @SeerGenius Mostly white, mostly rural/small town, but with more and more Latinos, and about 10% international students, mostly from China
  52. @SeerGenius in some ways, the rural/urban divide comes up most explicitly, and can be an in to discuss other identity issues.
  53. @kellymce I struggle with meaningful lib instruction if pop consistently changes. #critlib How to create sustainable community.
  54. @SeerGenius it is also something many students are comfortable talking about, when they may balk at talking about race or class.
  55. @SeerGenius which means it is a way to ease in, but also means we don't always get past it into those other areas. One shots...are limiting.
  56. @SeerGenius 3/4 women, maj African American, strong intl presence, 65 1st languages, maj test into basic writing/math.
  57. @SeerGenius Dunno how that changes what I teach, honestly, teach mostly 1-shots, everybody gets truncation.
  58. Annie also brought up a reading relating to Q1
  59. Related to Q1, check out what @DrShaniByard shared earlier this week: Colorblindness is a Real Problem  http://bit.ly/1hmDXsF  #critlib
  60. After a great and long conversation on Q1, we move to Q2: How do you deal with students who are resistant to social justice issues?
  61. Q2 How do you deal with students who are resistant to social justice issues? #critlib
  62. @catladylib Some might not change their minds at the moment we wish - but maybe later they will! We gotta be patient #critlib
  63. A2: I usually am teaching to Rhetoric classes, so I can often teach thru the debate #critlib
  64. A2: a favorite example is the inevitable abortion paper topic-- I *always* bring up the costs and financial limitations #critlib
  65. Which even the "pro-choice" students rarely bring up. #critlib
  66. #critlib A2 This is where it's useful to use a reading assignment for ppl to react to. Don't force sj interpretations. See how they develop.
  67. Some had a context where social justice is explicitly part of the school's mission
  68. Q2 My college has a social justice mission, most students have been exposed to the sj themes before they meet me #critlib
  69. @callingamy Same here re: social justic mission -- it helps! but also distances sj as something outside self, "mission of school" #critlib
  70. @callingamy as a follow up, have you had students who were still resistant to SJ or just completely not understand the issues? #critlib
  71. .@catladylib I haven't encountered much resistance yet, but as a nooblibrarian, my boss has been giving me gentle classes/supportive profs
  72. @catladylib @callingamy oh, for sure. They see young, often facing issues for the first time, struggling to not break family loyalties.
  73. Which still doesn't mean there won't be room to expand
  74. Q2 Even if your institution has a SJ focus, I wouldn't assume all students fully understand the issues. A lot to unpack. #critlib
  75. @catladylib Good point. May help to call attention to injustices that students have encountered. @callingamy #critlib A2
  76. @jacobsberg @catladylib @callingamy or look @ examples others dealt w/ (eg. microaggressions photo series) if no one wants to share #critlib
  77. @catladylib @bfister @jacobsberg Student debt has come up in almost all my classes this semester!
  78. Question 3: What does critical pedagogy for info lit. look like in nonacademic settings? How can we promote in other spaces? In addition, there was also Q3.5: what #critlib looks like outside of instruction/reference?
  79. Q3 What does critical pedagogy for info lit. look like in nonacademic settings? How can we promote in other spaces? #critlib via @katieldh
  80. Follow up to Q3: Q3.5 What #critlib looks like outside of instruction/reference? via @mauraweb
  81. Q3 As an art hist. major, I've studied artists who have highlighted SJ issues in their art. That knowledge helps at random times. #critlib
  82. A3 Also realizing I shld make most of opps that I have, like asking how much the textbook costs when on Curriculum Committee. #critlib
  83. A3: Not sure how this would work, but having been an adjunct at various places, would have loved help understanding each stud. pop #critlib
  84. @foureyedsoul reminds me, we need to be mindful of adjunctificaton, working conditions of faculty #critlib
  85. Critlib should also include staff
  86. Q3: #critlib outside the classroom can begin in the staff room. How do we behave with, respond to & include colleagues incl. support staff?
  87. @barnlib such a good point! Also, how does critical pedagogy fit into our staff development? I'm trying to be more proactive abt that.
  88. Critical pedagogy in staff development could be a whole #critlib convo, @kellymce!
  89. Scholarly communications is also big, such as Open Access
  90. .@mauraweb ha! sj profs told me I needed to understand the academic culture #critlib
  91. Ugh, b/c acad libns aren't in acad culture? :( MT @EvelineLH @mauraweb ha! sj profs told me I needed to understand academic culture #critlib
  92. .@mauraweb I was their student though, still they talked anti-oppression, but didn't follow oa #critlib
  93. Agree w @mauraweb. #openaccess convos are #critlib convos, about the means of production of scholarly communication.
  94. @bfister #critlib MRU Libns leading faculty pd sessions on peer review, OA, altmetrics and pitfalls of impact factors - FUN
  95. But OA isn't the Alpha and Omega of scholarly communications
  96. @SeerGenius @edrabinski mind expanding on that? Like predatory journals? or certain #OA practices?
  97. @SeerGenius @catladylib Yep. #oa certainly doesn't equal access, period. It's one kind of access. That matters, I care about it, not enuf.
  98. @SeerGenius Agreed. #oa convos need to acknowledge labor req'd. My current ish. Yours? #critlib
  99. @edrabinski that's a big beef. #oa like it bothers me when u say "oh rad teach is oa" passive like as if u didn't sleep 4 2 wks workn on it.
  100. @SeerGenius Yep. I wrote about the work of it, that's what I talk about when I talk about it. And the feminization of the labor. Bananas.
  101. @bfister @SeerGenius No doubt. But I just took a journal #oa, and it's a different level of work.
  102. @SeerGenius @edrabinski oh yeah, it's work, but it's all work. Work plus open better than work in the dark .
  103. @SeerGenius @edrabinski Not all OA is author pays and corporate. My students graduate, I dont want to cut them off.
  104. @SeerGenius @edrabinski if not readers and scholars, it's a scam. But I benefit daily because I can get stuff for my curiosity.
  105. @bfister @edrabinski do them readers and scholars look like you and me or just you? And the rest of us getting scammed?
  106. @bfister @edrabinski so I am suppose to buy into a system that still leaves my community out?
  107. @SeerGenius @edrabinski this is a big question for all acad libs, no? Are we instruments of exclusion?
  108. @SeerGenius @bfister @edrabinski #critlib Many levels of exclusion, cost, jargon, unwritten conventions. Needs work on OA & other barriers
  109. And OA can be subject to critique as well
  110. @bfister @edrabinski that like most tech it creates a wider disparity among communities.
  111. @edrabinski @bfister so now I gotta be clear that I am pro oa bc I introduce a critique that's often overlooked? Ok.
  112. @SeerGenius @bfister I'm just being clear that I am. I think we haven't addressed yr critique, that #oa d/n change who/what get's pub'd.
  113. @SeerGenius @bfister Like, Radical Teacher went #oa, which is great, board is still majority white, authors majority white.
  114. @edrabinski @bfister I get all red rooster bc like Emily pointed out critiques on oa to oa folk can b a poking at the chest. Myself included
  115. @SeerGenius Am also disturbed @ individualist vibe of much oa rhetoric. Like it's me my individual problem that scholarship is paywalled.
  116. I loves me #oa but just cuz I love it don't mean it can't and should b better. I'm not here 2 trade one system 4 the samething #critlib
  117. What we collect and how we make it accessible should also be part of critlib
  118. A3.5 Outside of ref and instruction, there's collection dev. and special coll. What materials do we have to support SJ? #critlib
  119. @catladylib A3.5 There is a col dev budget for social justice materials, I order for edu, I went in and tried to add more titles related SJ
  120. @catladylib now is good time to engage w/SJ primary sources-digitally avail. SpecColl in original not always practical 4 undergrads #critlib
  121. A3.5: I'm trying to work more with our digital lib dept on access to digital collections... #critlib
  122. At Barnard: zines, lesbian & LGBTQ-YA. Yay! MT @catladylib A3.5 ...there's collection dev. & special coll. What mat'ls support SJ? #critlib
  123. Design was also brought in
  124. A3: #critlib pedagogy outside the classroom and outside academy-> related in some way to design (e.g. tutorials, scaffolds, etc.)?
  125. @donnarosemary @katieldh Design in this way didn't come for mind to me with this Q but I'm interested. Do you have an example?
  126. @aripants @katieldh Ex: online learning objects: scaffolded examples can use sj topics & lang/rhetoric can be respectful of student #critlib
  127. Also radical cataloging 
  128. A3.5 I believe @jacobsberg mentioned radical cataloging as an answer to seeing #critlib outside of ref and instruction.
  129. @catladylib Indeed. That's the title of a book from Library Juice. @edrabinski contributed. #critlib A3.5
  130. Last on the question front, the future of #critlib: Q4 What do you want to get out of these #critlib discussions? What format/frequency would work best? Twitter still okay for this?
  131. Q4 What do you want to get out of these #critlib discussions? What format/frequency would work best? Twitter still okay for this? #critlib
  132. A4 I enjoy #critlib for thoughtful discussion w/colleagues. I'm okay w/twitter as the venue. Could do twice a month or once a month.
  133. @catladylib A4: Yell into the void, steal ideas, support & be supported by like-minded folk. #critlib
  134. A4, Twitter keeps the pace moving quickly, I like it for #critlib
  135. A4 I like twitter chats tho it is sometimes hard to engage. Still, the madness of this type of colleague-ing is part of its magic #critlib
  136. A4 Like twitter chats, 2x/mo sustainable if others would like to rotate in w/ us to moderate discussions, maybe 1x/mo article disc #critlib
  137. A4 agreed w/@pumpedlibrarian. 1 chat dedicated to a reading, 1 chat dedicated to practice. #critlib
  138. A4 I like the reading discussion every other chat too, will noodge me to read more on these topics! #critlib
  139. A4 Agreed we should read some stuff together. Would help me think harder than 140 chars lets me. #critlib
  140. A4 & would <3 more readings outside of librarianship too, let's get into deep dark trenches of other fields, out of echo chamber #critlib
  141. A4 And what if we read stuff that wasn't about libraries? #critlib
  142. Q4: I also like twitter every few weeks, it is cacophonous but invigorating. I'd also like to find some project/accountability buds #critlib
  143. A4: The timing is a little rough, too. Can people chat during traditional work day? I already do so much off the clock. #critlib
  144. Just like how critical librarianship is more than ref and instruction, #critlib is more than just a once every other week chat
  145. A4: also, we are all free to continue these conversations beyond this one hour on twitter: this should be the *start* not the end. #critlib
  146. A4: I'd like to intersperse manic #critlib chats with something in a more reflective medium.
  147. Beauty of using a hashtag is it can def be asynchronous to this hour -- just use it thruout week! #critlib
  148. And #critlib pitch part 2: let's all keep this hashtag going beyond the chats! I'm going to start checking it more often + add to convo
  149. A4 I love idea of 2x/mo #critlib here on Twitter, possibly extended further w/ Google Doc, maybe Tumblr (already lots of #Tumblarian folks)?
  150. A4 I'd love to see a database/document of examples and activities people use for #critlib instruction, in addition to the chat.
  151. Finally, the pitch!
  152. Speaking of examples, it's time for #critlib pitch! Share articles, blog posts, examples of cool stuff!
  153. My #critlib pitch is for the Braverman Awards: MLIS students, submit yer papers abt the social aspects of libraries!  http://www.progressivelibrariansguild.org/content/award.shtml 
  154. Reminder for #critlib folks, Gender & Sexuality in Info Studies colloq CFP, abstracts due May 1!  http://litwinbooks.com/2014colloquium.php 
  155. And thus we end, thanking Annie for her great work
  156. Thank you everyone for a great #critlib chat! We'll be back in 2 weeks, same time, same place (twitter). Probably w/a reading TBD.
  157. Thanks to @catladylib for moderating another thought-provoking #critlib. You can moderate in the future, the link is on the cheatsheet!
  158. Thanks #critlib people and @catladylib for another great chat! Looking forward 2 next 1, & all the in-between things that hopefully pop up.
  159. Don't forget that you too can propose and moderate a chat
  160. If you're interested in moderating a #critlib chat, fill out this form:  http://tinyurl.com/critlibmod . It's pretty fun!
  161. And we're already continuing the conversation
  162. hey #critlib-ers, any recommendations for non-fiction books that deal with global SJ issues that first-year students love?